A winless AFL season might not be so bad in the eyes of Greater Western Sydney coach Kevin Sheedy.
But the Giants mentor is still on a mission to secure more victories in 2013 than the two they posted as debutants last year.
GWS are yet to record a win this season after six rounds, but almost caused a huge upset on Saturday when they held a 27-point lead over an unbeaten Essendon outfit early in the second half.
Sheedy said while it was important to win, the fact GWS had reduced its losing scorelines without the likes of Chad Cornes, James McDonald and Luke Power was a sign of improvement.
"You can see now we're lasting longer in games and by the time these guys (reach) the second half of the year, some of them will be playing their 35th or 40th game - that's a hell of a lot of experience for a group of players coming through only in their second year," Sheedy told reporters on Monday.
When asked whether he would still say the Giants have done well if they don't win a game all season, Sheedy replied: "If I said to you ... we lost eight games by a kick and didn't win a game, I'd say yeah.
"It's far more about how you want to measure improvement. If you want to measure improvement by losses and wins - most people will say yes.
"But is improvement by sustained effort, just unfortunately (you) didn't win or won less games?
"Particularly in my first two years back in AFL, you can't be worried necessarily about a win-loss ratio.
"My win will be, as a person, did you do the right thing by the players and the club in the developing early years of this club? That's the more important thing for me."
Regardless, the AFL veteran said his squad has performed better than the AFL ladder suggests.
"You'd like to knock off a decent side somewhere and surprise everybody in the AFL and that's where it is for us," he said.
"I'd always go for four or five wins, I'd be happy with that."
The Giants play their first home match of the season at Showground Stadium on Sunday against Adelaide, who have won two from six matches this year.